YDS, version 1.33, diagnostic question

[TownsendsFJR1300]

Don't know the answer for your question BUT an update on my YDS.


I suspect a Windows 10 update somehow took out the YDS program on the lap top.

I can find the install program and the operating program BUT there is NO SIZE (and doesn't open). I definitly didn't touch or un-install it.

Neighbors coming down next month and we'll re-install and get it going again...

[kiwisean]

HI all
Just got a keywest with a pair of old f150s.
Had YDS for a while but setting up now
got the v1.33 and new driver for windows10 thanks fair deals
I am now setting up the advanced com port setting but cant see the option for data only anywhere or any power setting.
please let me know the trick here
thanks
Sean

[TownsendsFJR1300]

I guess Yamaha had a supply of -03 parts they needed to move through rather than throw them away.

Kind of like the huge supply of brake discs for the Ford Taurus back in the early 90's. Guaranteed to warp.....Ford just kept using them anyway...

Yep, I guess that's what happened to me..

[pstephens46]

I guess Yamaha had a supply of -03 parts they needed to move through rather than throw them away.

Kind of like the huge supply of brake discs for the Ford Taurus back in the early 90's. Guaranteed to warp.....Ford just kept using them anyway...

[fairdeal]

From what I have read, the -04 was introduced mid 2012.

if I'm understanding yamahaoutboards.com correctly,
it went into production 01/2012 for the F150XA and LF150XA
but not until 01/2013 for the F150LA and F150JA

[TownsendsFJR1300]

Waiting for Boscoe to swoop in and tell me I'm wrong.

The type 4 must have come out right AFTER they did mine. I'm trying to re-call if they had to order it or not....

BTW, Jethro's asked me about any casting #'s on my previous balancer.



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[pstephens46]

Waiting for Boscoe to swoop in and tell me I'm wrong.

[TownsendsFJR1300]

From what I have read, the -04 was introduced mid 2012.

Now ya made me look it up in my maintenance log...

It (type 3) was installed 5-15-12.. Figures....



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[pstephens46]

From what I have read, the -04 was introduced mid 2012.

[TownsendsFJR1300]

is there any casting and or part numbers that you can tell which Balancer are on the motors without pulling them off?

Nope, nothing inside or out.

You can call Yamaha headquarters and see if it was updated (thru Yamaha as mine was to a type 3). And the type 3 was the latest as of 2012,
(I verified thru Yamaha that's what was put on at the dealership then).

Dunno when the type 4 came out...



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[boscoe99]

is there any casting and or part numbers that you can tell which Balancer are on the motors without pulling them off?

No. Even by removing the balancer you cannot tell what configuration it is.

The parts catalog will tell you which configuration balancer was installed on the motor at the factory.

The maintenance records will tell you which configuration (if any) was installed after delivery.

[Tunamike]

is there any casting and or part numbers that you can tell which Balancer are on the motors without pulling them off?

[TownsendsFJR1300]

I bought my '06 new in early 2007.

While still under warranty in 2012, The local dealership brought to my attention about issues with the balancer. It was replaced then with a type 3 (the latest version at the time).

Since then, they came out with a type 4, the latest version. I called Yamaha and asked what version they replaced my original with-yup, a type 3...

I got several different answers from Yamaha about the change between the 3 and 4 types. I was told, slightly looser tolerances, quieter and an additional oiling hole.

I was also told if you listen to the balancer and it sounds like a super charger whine, its toast.

About two months ago, I had a new sound that sounded like an old fan belt. Thought it was the tensioner (it did have some extra play, replaced it, no change). Listening very closely to the balancer(by the fuel filter), it did sound like a super charger.

After reading about another members balancer letting loose, complete engine tear down, I decided to spring for the type 4.

Taking my time, it took me about two hours. And I know the tech that did it the first time did NOT do several things...

With the new balancer installed, no more "super charger sound" AND the "noisy fan belt" noise was GONE...

Best $400 I spent, just for piece of mind.


Your's is likely a type two, haven't heard of a type 3 blowing up (teeth go away) but my type 3 was definitely making some odd noises...

IMO, change that out, $400 or $14,000 for a new motor.

Basic hand tools, torque wrench, instructions (as a PDF) are available and very clear..

I know the parts diagram here still shows the earlier styles.

Call and order the type 4. (the 1-3 types may be superseded) but the ONLY markings I could find to differentiate each was the PART 3 on the box.

Nothing on the balancer itself..

[fairdeal]

as i search for this Type 3/4 balance shaft assy they all say 2006 and up

that's a disappointing limitation of the boat.net website

its just telling you that the part was used "on a model that came after 2005"

to pin it down to to the actual year, you can look at the parts listing acessible through the actual Yamaha USA site

yamahaoutboards.com

from a quick look, seems the -03 was introduced into production starting 4/2008

[Tunamike]

Just out of curiosity as i search for this Type 3/4 balance shaft assy they all say 2006 and up does this mean if mine is 2005 it is okay?

did get the YDS hooked up and working could not find a mis fire history that i was hoping to find but did pull the diagnostics etc. now the balance shaft deal has me a little concerned