Hard shift after water pump

[rodbolt17]

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hunting wabbits
there is nothing you can do changing a water pump to make it shift hard.
simply nothing.
fix the failing shift cable.

[Jason2tpa]

chasing ghosties.
hunting wabbits
there is nothing you can do changing a water pump to make it shift hard.
simply nothing.
fix the failing shift cable.

Could you imagine his video dialogue..."this ain't rocket science you idiots, it's simple."

Be entertaining I would guess...lol

Indeed panasonic...I would tune in to watch his insult-laden tutorials. Watching with a cold one in hand could prove very entertaining

[rodbolt17]

not insulting anyone.
but that shift mechanism in the lower simply rotates.
if it had an issue it had it before the lower got dropped.

I see this everyday.
it worked fine before I brought it in.
about 2 weeks ago I had a boat that needed a 100 hr service.
as I removed the plugs I found aluminium on the electrode.
did a compression test.
it failed.
called the customer and he said it ran fine and just needed a service.

he said it just needs a tuneup.
I asked why.
he said it idled bad and would not turn up.

lucky for me he got mad with my diagnoses and took it.

but it ran good until I touched it.

[panasonic]

not insulting anyone.
but that shift mechanism in the lower simply rotates.
if it had an issue it had it before the lower got dropped.

I see this everyday.
it worked fine before I brought it in.
about 2 weeks ago I had a boat that needed a 100 hr service.
as I removed the plugs I found aluminium on the electrode.
did a compression test.
it failed.
called the customer and he said it ran fine and just needed a service.

he said it just needs a tuneup.
I asked why.
he said it idled bad and would not turn up.

lucky for me he got mad with my diagnoses and took it.

but it ran good until I touched it.

Yes I certainly agree with what you say...I would say that has happened to you too many times to count...

BUT nobody asked in this particular post was this engine hard to shift BEFORE the LU was removed. Maybe it was..maybe it was not.

If it was shifting fine before the LU was removed and reinstalled and then was hard to shift after..then something HAD changed in the process of doing so. In my trade we call it a "self induced snag" it happens all the time.

As for being "insulting" we all can be like that at times. Rodbolt, people seek you out for good reason on this forum...you supply good information because of your experience, training and logical way of looking at problems. It is not the information you give....it the way you give it at times....sometimes you can be a bit insulting to others. You may not think so, but I can see how others can take some of the things you say come across as so.

[rodbolt17]

shifting on that V6 is a simple can system that rotates.
it simply moves a plunger fwd or aft. the clutch is pinned to the plunger.
the plunger has detent balls. the shift shaft just below the power head also has R,N,and F detents.
typically it is either a cable or the shaft detents that cause hard shifting. last week I did an 50 two stroke that someone misrouted the oil tank alarm wiring and it was jamming up the linkage causeing a no reverse.
there is nothing one can do to change shifting just by installing a water pump.
the shaft splines simply mate and the assy rotates.

[99yam40]

might be something fell into the lower cowling and is binding up the shift linkage up there.
has happened before,
just have to look to see what is causing things to bind.

disconnecting the cable at motor and seeing if the problem is at the motor or the controls is the 1st thing to do

[Jason2tpa]

not insulting anyone.

My bad, i meant it as a joke. There was a completely different thread regarding a guy from Aussie, Dangar, who has these great youtube tutorials. Somebody mentioned that you should start your own youtube tutorials after you retire from being a master mechanic. A couple of us were jiving back and forth of how entertaining it would be to watch you do these videos, in that straight-forward no nonsense way you post on here to members.

[rodbolt17]

I dunno.
maybe after about 40 yrs I have done this to long.
but if you meet me in person I tend to be about the same as I post.
I have various friends and some neighbors I have busted chops with here.

lucky that some of us actually have some training and some tools to do a job.

I thank every US citizen for my training.
FC2 USN retired.