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i have a 2005, 200 v max i am having issues with and cannot figure it out. when i first try to start it it will not start it will usually run down the batteries . once its started it is perfect it will run 5700 RPM all day idel at 700 rpm perfect. let it set for 24 hours and i have to get the battery charger out again she spins good once it starts its good again. i don't know if its a fuel issue or what any suggestions would be great..it is a VZ200TLRD
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A fully charged battery should have approx 12.8 volts static(sitting, no load).
Get the battery load tested as well just to rule it out. It should be fully charged while cranking, low voltage (or failed battery) can cause your non-start issue. Most auto parts stores, Walmart, etc will load test for free..
You can confirm the engine is charging while running. With a volt meter, you should see high 13 volts/14 volts while running at the battery or on your gauges (if equipped). If its charging, see below;
Sounds like something is draining your battery when it sits(if the battery passes the load test and the engine is charging).
You may try disconnecting the battery once stopped, it should hold the charge over night easily.
You may also want to check your systems, ie bilge pump possibly stuck on draining the battery, a light or other accessory on, draining the battery.Scott
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I think he means he keeps turning it over until the battery is flat, because it wont start, not that the battery is no good or has a suspect charging system.Comment
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Thanks for the added post.Originally posted by ausnoelm View Post
It is fuel injected; http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Ya...LRD/parts.html . Someone else will have to chime in re the cold starting issue / FI possible issue.
If it runs all day, its likely charging. If he parks with a charged battery and its dead the next day, something is draining it down. Again, if it just doesn't start cold,(but spins over fine initially), the FI, "choking system" would be suspect. Perhaps a sensor NOT recognizing its cold and NOT adding additional fuel as needed.
Bosco or Rodbolt would likely know..
A bit more EXACT DETAIL would be very helpful from the op too.Last edited by TownsendsFJR1300; 12-02-2014, 07:20 AM.Scott
1997 Angler 204, Center Console powered by a 2006 Yamaha F150TXRComment
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Should you possibly have something draining your battery, a tip;
If you only have a volt meter and an incandescent test lamp you can detect leakage. Assuming battery has ~ 12V or better.
Disconnect the NEG battery lead.
Connect Test Lamp between the Battery negative and the Negative lead. If the the 12V lamp lights, start unplugging stuff.
Then go through the fuses.
When current stops flowing the lamp will go out. Also, the clock in the meter does not draw enough current to light an incandescent bulb. (For a motorcycle but should apply if you have a clock in you gauges)Scott
1997 Angler 204, Center Console powered by a 2006 Yamaha F150TXRComment
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i kinda thought the same thing about the batteries so i went and bought 2 brand new 850 cranking amp batteries . and it has a perko switch that is off and it has a on board battery charger that i keep on all the time, i don't think the batteries are the issue, o and i also put a new Yamaha starter on it thinking maybe it was not turning over fast enough. it is a fuel injected motor. it act like its not getting fuel on start up once she fires up its perfect all day. one bump of the key and its running and willl turn 5700 RPM all dayComment
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i am going to go pick up some new spark plugs and try them out. just to see, before i saw off this motor and put a 4 stroke on.Comment
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If that's the only issue, I wouldn't be trashing it yet by any means... Someone will chime in, just be patient.
Or worse case scenerio, find a Yamaha Master tech...
Anything can be fixed, a new four stoke will be MANY, MANY times the cost of repairing your 2 stroke...
The four strokes have issues too..Scott
1997 Angler 204, Center Console powered by a 2006 Yamaha F150TXRComment
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VZ200 indicates its a bass boat motor using HPDI technology.
its fairly simple.
do you have spark? easy to TEST.
do you have both the 50 psi and the 1100 psi rail pressures? easy to TEST.
if all 3 are present then its time to test the injector drivers, a bit more difficult but still easy to test.
if you happen not to understand how HPDI fuel and ign work then BACK AWAY.
you will create more issues than you solve randomly chunking stuff at it.Comment
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Ok I'm back again going crazzzzy but maybe on to something. Friday afternoon got home hot and sunny. Checked fuel pressur good 45 and 750 put spark test good boat started right up like new. Now Sunday morning damp foggy cool tried starting motor no start has fuel pressur and NO spark😁 I noticed sone moisture on motor ( normal). Could something have a crack and allowing moistur to ground out maybe grounding ignition system?Comment
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Yes it could.
Testing with proper equipment is so much easierComment
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All cylinders NO spark?Originally posted by garylowe View Post
I would start by checking all connections under the cowl including the main harness to the computer (or brain) of the engine. Those connections are very small without much contact area. A little bit of green corrosion will cause all kinds of issues. Check your grounds as well.
As you noted, its seems when hot/warm, your bad/borderline connection is working. When cold/damp, not so. I'd put money its not a faulty part (as it runs great hot), but just a bad connector/ground somewhere. Physically pulling the connectors apart, NOT just looking at it, is key. They must be spotless..... Dilectric grease in these connectors would help prevent later issues.
Good luck and please post what you find.Scott
1997 Angler 204, Center Console powered by a 2006 Yamaha F150TXRComment
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Yes no spark on all cylinders , I did try something this afternoon, and she started . Don't knou if finally it dried out and started ,or I am on to something . I got my jumper cables and hooked the ground up to the battery and other end to a motor ground and it seemed to spinn faster ans fired right up. Don't know but I am going to get some new cables with crimps and try it cold to see if possibly may be bad batterie wire connection. And I do like the idea of dielectric greas I have lots of this at work we use it all the time and it is a easy try /fix.Comment
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Cables do corrode out. Very possible.
Also, if you haven't already, physically remove the ground (just looking/tugging at it DOES NOT COUNT) and clean the block, cable end, etc..
Sounds like you narrowing it down but you should be able to see/find the root cause.Scott
1997 Angler 204, Center Console powered by a 2006 Yamaha F150TXRComment
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you do realize this is a 12V TCI ign system?
its NOT like any other outboard system you ever dinked on.
if the ign shorted to ground you would see blown fuses.
if the stop circuit shorted to ground you would get an alarm when you cranked it.Comment
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